[identity profile] iamshunpike.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] terrapinshell
I'm back, bearing bases. And alliteration.

This time, it's a metric fuckton of icon bases of the movie "La belle personne".
There are two categories: 1. A giant hodgepodge of bases, not ordered; and 2. a smaller set, ordered by the film's timing.
This will be very unfriendly to slower computers. Tons of images, no regrets. (Also, in a couple of the bases, it is a little NSFW.)

· 124 unordered
· 40 ordered


download them here.

(I will probably upload and put all the images into
this post later, once I am more awake.)

ETA: Bases!

124 unordered





















40 ordered







Also, can I really, really recommend Malionette's Icon Table Generator? Because I do. Usually dealing with icon tables (read: icon table generating sites. i no HTML.) makes me crazy nervous, plus I don't always like how it looks. (Go back in this LJ and you'll see I definitely don't use the same site every time.) Once I entered a 20in20 icon challenge and practically had a mini panic attack.
But yeah, this site is pretty awesome. Just the bare bones, and it's crazy easy to use.
Yeah, ok.

> Credit [livejournal.com profile] iamshunpike for the bases.
> Don't repost and claim as your own.
> Have a good day. :)

Cross-posted to [livejournal.com profile] lgarrel.

Date: 2011-09-07 04:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
Weeeeeeeeeeeeird, I was planning on watching this movie in the next couple of days.

Date: 2011-09-08 09:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
Interesting. I've had it on my list of things to watch for quite a while, because of Louis Garrel, and that other guy who was in Les Chansons D'amour. But I don't really know that much about it. Hmm. I'll have to let you know what I think.

And I'll prepare myself for the angst! I feel like so few of the movies I've watched lately have had happy endings, and I always end up hoping for one, so that's a helpful warning.

Date: 2011-09-22 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
I watched it and I think I get what you mean now. The atmosphere was just kind of off, wasn't it? I kind of liked the fact that the love plot ended the way it did because it felt more realistic and was less creepy that way, but you're right - there was no real indication from the movie that Nemours was doing anything wrong.

Everyone was definitely ridiculously pretty though, oh my god. Have you seen Les Chansons D'amour? It's the same director and the majority of the cast is the same as well, and it's SO good.

Date: 2011-10-09 02:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
PROFESSOR LOUIS GARREL. That was basically what I was calling him in my head, too. I actually had to check IMDB for the character name, ngl.

Les Chansons D'amour is seriously amazing. It does have a bisexual love triangle thing going on, and the way it's treated is so lovely and respectful and realistic. It's not like OMG KINKY THREESOME or, like you said, totally dysfunctional and messed up. Yeah, you've got the rest of the plot right, too. The way the film handles the relationships in general is awesome - Louis's character falling for a man is so well-done, there's no HE WAS GAY ALL ALONG AND IN DENIAL!! and the reason he angsts over it is more because of his grief for his dead girlfriend and the fact that the guy is quite a bit younger. It's just a really refreshing outlook, idk. And yeah, it's a musical! Which put me off at first, but that part is done really cleverly as well and it never feels too cheesy. I recommend it wholeheartedly. :D
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
Don't worry about it, this is all so relevant to my interests. I totally agree. I've been so curious about poly relationships for a while and it's just really appealing to me. I've never really been able to imagine myself being monogamous. In like, every relationship I've been in, I've always felt so guilty for still being attracted to other people, and sometimes for wanting to pursue relationships with other people, and it's like - it would be so much EASIER if there weren't all these societal rules. I mean, obviously not everyone feels the same way as us, but I think that certain parts of fandom/fiction really open up people's minds to new ideas and I bet a lot of people just go along with monogamy because they believe that's how we're supposed to be.

I try not to get too specific about it because I do worry I'm being idealistic and that it wouldn't work for me in practice - like that I would get too jealous or something. But I really like the idea, and I'm open to it, and I think that's come about from exposure to it through fandom and fiction like you said. Which I think is a really good thing - it's not like brainwashing, it's just saying like "hey, here's a thing you might not have considered before" and letting you think about it and work out how you feel.

Same with consensual incest, yeah! I strongly believe it is just a conditioning thing, and if people really think about it, then they realise it's not as much of a problem as we've been brought up to believe. But so many people can't get past the 'ickiness' of it. Like, I lectured SO many friends back in high school who I could tell KNEW I was making good points, but they just got so caught up in the "but it's wrong and gross" argument that I couldn't get anywhere. And that is such a useless argument with no real sense behind it. I'm glad you got a better reaction, that's interesting, and promising I think.
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
Oh, I definitely don't consider them to be rules either! Like, not in the sense that I feel like I have to follow them. I just mean that it's what society expects, and what we're brought up to believe, so it's what most people go along with. Which means that the people you want to be with kind of have to be okay with ignoring those "rules", too, and I guess that's the tricky part, and the reason those rules are damaging in the first place. Well, limiting, anyway. (And thank you, yeah, I do celebrate Thanksgiving! My Mum is American.)

It all started because I watched The Dreamers, which got me interested in incest in the first place, and I told my friends the plot and they were all like WTF? And then when I started really thinking about the idea of incest being "wrong", and that reaction, I tried to explain how I felt. It seemed totally logical to me but they either couldn't get past the "ew gross" reaction or they just refused to. They just turned it into a joke, really, like "Jenny is obsessed with incest!" as a thing to tease me about. Which I didn't mind, 'cause they weren't really judging me, but it was frustrating that they wouldn't look any deeper. And that has put me off trying to talk about it to other people, for the reasons you said.

Yeah, the "ew gross" reaction is an incredibly lazy argument. In fact, it's not even an ARGUMENT, it's an emotionally-fuelled response that has no real meaning or logic behind it. I find people also tend to go for the "but would YOU have sex with YOUR sibling?" argument, too, which is bullshit - you don't actually have to have experienced the feeling to sympathise with it and think it's okay. I agree that your suggested argument has more weight to it, but it's still like...idk, I can't really think of any reasons that justify sibling incest being illegal. Same sex, anyway. Even with heterosexual sibling incest and the risk of producing children with health defects and stuff - it's not as if two people need to be blood-related to have that issue, but we don't go around criminalising THEM. Doctors might warn them of the risks, but that's pretty much it, isn't it? It seems really odd to me.
From: [identity profile] likecharity.livejournal.com
Yeah, I think so! That was in early 2006, so I was 15. I remember reading a synopsis that hinted at the incestuousness, and I was really curious but also really hesitant, and it genuinely took me a couple of days to come to terms with the idea before I watched it. I had to, like, try work out whether or not it was going to disturb me too much. Which seems so ridiculous now! But it's funny, because even back then I was totally taken by the idea, and the film did shock me, but within like a day of watching it I was already like "I NEED TO SEE MORE MOVIES THAT DEAL WITH THIS TOPIC. OR READ BOOKS. OR ANYTHING."

Actually, what you said about the Narnia fandom is making me wonder whether I was reading incestuous Harry Potter fic before I saw The Dreamers...I always loved Fred and George and I must have come across it. But maybe that was just the first thing I got into after I developed the kink, haha. I don't think I would've been so anxious about The Dreamers if I'd been desensitized by the Harry Potter fandom, probably.

That's very true about the abuse, but like you said, that does happen in other relationships anyway - people passing it off as consensual when it's not. I agree that it might be more likely in incestuous ones though. It's really tricky, because if there's a significant age gap, the older sibling is definitely in a position of authority and could manipulate the younger one. There are so many complications.


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